Eggbert Nobacon
2:06 Sun Feb 12
Re: Martin Samuelsen
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The same story as all his other loans this time at Peterborough
Started the first few games then dropped to the bench
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pdbis
12:24 Tue Jan 17
Re: Martin Samuelsen
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Needs to bulk up a bit if he wants to make it.The next year will tell if he will stay with us.
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Marco Boogers
1:53 Mon Jan 9
Re: Martin Samuelsen
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Not as many as we do
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Coffee
1:49 Mon Jan 9
Re: Martin Samuelsen
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How many Burkes do they have?
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BobD
1:45 Mon Jan 9
Re: Martin Samuelsen
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Burke isn't being wasted on the bench at Wigan - the Burke on their bench currently is Luke Burke. Reece is injured and back with us getting treatment.
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Lee Trundle
2:27 Thu Jan 5
Re: Martin Samuelsen
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I said players who are currently called up to play for England.
James Milner retired last year. A top coach would even know that.
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daveyg
2:27 Thu Jan 5
Re: Martin Samuelsen
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Burke is now being wasted on the bench at Wigan.
What has he learnt since going up there ?
I knew it was the wrong club at the time
After such a good season last year he should of stayed and pushed the likes of Ogbonna. Would of helped out at full back too
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Alex V
2:20 Thu Jan 5
Re: Martin Samuelsen
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Lee Trundle 1:55 Thu Jan 5
Yep, sod what the top coaches think, let's ask Joe Hart and James Milner what's best for the next generation.
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cygnet
1:55 Thu Jan 5
Re: Martin Samuelsen
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Re Sven 12:08
His first loan spell at Posh tailed off because they got a halfwit in as managee (Westley).
Grant McCann is in charge there now. He'll give Samuelsen a decent run.
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Lee Trundle
1:55 Thu Jan 5
Re: Martin Samuelsen
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I wonder if any of the 20 odd players that currently get called up to play for England think their loans were a complete waste of time, or a key part of their development?
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Alex V
1:29 Thu Jan 5
Re: Martin Samuelsen
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero 1:13 Thu Jan 5
I think the data does back up what the article is saying. Spurs two years ago had 10-13 young players out on loan, this year they have zero. Klopp's quotes are backed up with the club's actions - no u21s are now out on loan, a couple of years ago there were a bunch of them. I think Arsenal's youth loans year on year they are generally reducing.
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Joe C
1:16 Thu Jan 5
Re: Martin Samuelsen
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You're so wacky, Alex
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
1:13 Thu Jan 5
Re: Martin Samuelsen
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The Sky story amounts to a load of conjecture based on three players nobody has ever heard of not going out on loan and Arsene Wenger moaning about Chelsea having more players than him.
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Alex V
1:12 Thu Jan 5
Re: Martin Samuelsen
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Broadly yes. I don't think anyone would totally rule out loans as an option in some cases.
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On The Ball
1:05 Thu Jan 5
Re: Martin Samuelsen
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So no young players should be out playing and getting experience, they should all be playing in U21 games and just training?
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Alex V
1:01 Thu Jan 5
Re: Martin Samuelsen
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Good piece on the Sky website today. Happy to see that some top coaches are now showing signs of questioning the loan system as I do.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/10715255/to-loan-or-not-to-loan-top-coaches-are-now-looking-for-a-new-solution
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Alex V
3:46 Mon Jan 2
Re: Martin Samuelsen
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The point I do make on this issue is that loans of young players so often seem to results in a net negative. Now in his third longer loan spell, it's no surprise at all that his development seems to be stalling.
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One Raducioiu!
3:25 Mon Jan 2
Re: Martin Samuelsen
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All the talent in the world and a great attitude. If he can learn how to apply his game in the world of competitive football he will be a great little player.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
2:31 Mon Jan 2
Re: Martin Samuelsen
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To be fair Alex V would also allow a couple of world class 25 year olds bought for £3.50 and a couple of bags of lentils.
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Darby_
2:26 Mon Jan 2
Re: Martin Samuelsen
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Alex V will be along in a minute to say they all should be in the first team.
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Sven Roeder
12:08 Mon Jan 2
Re: Martin Samuelsen
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His first loan there tailed off but obviously they rate him enough to bring him back.
At 19 he just needs to be playing regularly
For those getting too impatient at that age Harry Kane was on loan at Millwall looking like an enormous mongy DONKEY
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